Netflix Has Inadequate Parental Controls...
Over the weekend, I received an email from Netflix telling me that my Wii Netflix disc was on the way and would arrive at my house sometime on Monday. At first I was excited for my kids. The Wii is on our television in the living room and my father-in-law has introduced the kids to the cartoons and Disney stuff that's available through Instant Watch. I figured the kids could get some good use out of the subscription but my enthusiasm for Netflix on the Wii dropped considerably when I looked into the specifics of how this service would work for my family.
Recently, I've been watching the Showtime series, "Weeds". I'm on season one and I am enjoying the series. The problem I have with this is that "Weeds" will now be available to watch on the Wii and that's certainly not a show I want my 10 year old daughter having access to. So, last night, I spent some time trying to figure out the parental controls for Netflix and left their site less than impressed. Before I get into this, we watch what our kids watch but I don't sit by their side 24x7 while they watch TV. We trust that they'll make good decisions but let's face it, good decisions and curiosity are mutually exclusive. The line gets blurred even more when their best friend's parents let their 10 year olds watch a movie I wouldn't consider appropriate for my 10 year old. So before you jump on here and tell me to parent my kids, I'm going to pre-emptively tell you that that is exactly what I am trying to do.
Netflix has three major faults that I can see as a parent.
- The history of what you watched or rented cannot be deleted. If you watch 10 seconds of an Instant Watch movie, that movie is listed in your history and there's no way to remove it.
- The "Recently Watched" list completely bypasses all maturity ratings for the account so setting the account to PG for normal use and then increasing it to watch an episode or two of "Weeds" would make "Weeds" available to the account even when the maturity setting was reduced back down to PG.
- Sub profiles under an account do not allow Instant Watch, only DVD rentals from your account's total number of available rentals.
In the end, I was forced to cancel my current account and sign up for a new account with a different email address. From there, I at least had a clean cache of DVDs and Instant Watch movies and I could restrict the maturity level on the account down to PG. Unless I want to pay for a second Netflix account, I basically cannot use the account any longer to watch anything above the PG rating that I set for the kids. Netflix needs to fix this and fix it soon. The proliferation of streaming devices to other TVs in my house has made it so that my account needs to meet my needs and the needs of my kids. The parent controls are woefully inadequate.
I like Netflix and I enjoy watching Instant Watch shows from time to time. All that really needs to happen is for Netflix to solve one of the problems above, preferably the last one. Let me give my kids their own account that's connected to my account. The Wii can login using their account and my Xbox can log in using my account. It's that simple to solve the problem. Let's hope they update their service soon.
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We just signed up for Netflix and ran into the same problem. Not only are things the parents watch henceforth available to the kids, but there appears to be NO parental controls at all re: the streaming. Since we set up different acct profiles, I thought when we clicked on the Netflix icon on our PS3 that it would ask for a password - thereby limiting what the current viewer could select from - WRONG!
I completely agree with you! It's almost like Netflix set up the option only because some insistent parent asked them to, then they made it useless. BIG problem - we may end up cutting off this subscription shortly :(
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We turned around and just locked down the entire service. I use the streaming stuff to watch Showtime dramas like "Weeds" and "The Tudors" so I didn't want to get rid of it. God help my free time if they ever get HBO's lineup. I was hoping that the parenting options would be easier than regulating an on/off switch manually but unfortunately they are not.
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My thoughts exactly. My young kids watch cartoons on a weekend morning (thereby letting us sleep in a bit). Now that Netflix is available via Tivo, I'm not comfortable having the entire Netflix library open to them. The question is how to communicate this to Netflix. Looking at the Contact Us section of the website, it's all focused around customer service issues. How can you give your feedback?
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I ran into another issue with parental controls. We don't like to watch anything rated 'R' or above, so we set our parental filter to PG-13. This cut out TV-14 television shows like "Bones", My wife and I love that show. I couldn't find anyway around it, so we had to reset our filter to include rated 'R' movies which we have to search through, but have no interest in.
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Thanks for the information. I hadn't realized that TV-14 is technically above PG-13. TV and movie controls need to be distinct and configurable by sub account. Maybe, someday, Netflix will get it and update accordingly.
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The lack of effective parental controls is extremely frustrating, for the reasons everyone has already stated. Not to mention that when I make the changes, it says the changes may not become effective for 18 hours! So I actually have to plan 18 hours ahead of time if I will want to watch something I don't my kids to have access to!
Obviously Netflix doesn't care AT ALL; people have been complaining about this for at least a year now, and nothing has changed.
I got 1 yr of Netflix and a Roku for an Xmas present. If it wasn't already pre-paid, I would cancel. Needless to say, I will not be renewing unless NetFlix actually starts to give a c***.
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It seems like this is Netflix's way of forcing you to pay for 2 accounts, one for the adults and one for the kids. Does anyone know of an alternate service that has better parental controls and just as many movies?
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There's been recent news on this front. I posted about it this morning. elysianonline.com/.../netflix-might-h
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There is definitely something strange going on with the TV-14 rated shows. I set my Netflix parental controls to allow rated R and lower. I assumed this would allow access for TV-14 shows also. It does for some titles, like Law & Order SVU. But it does NOT for other titles, like Law & Order CI.
I find it very backwards, that Netflix will BLOCK the old A-Team shows (TV-14), with nothing inappropriate. But at the same time will ALLOW access to Law & Order SVU (TV-14), which has a lot of inappropriate stuff.
The only solution I currently have is to allow access to EVERYTHING. This leaves the door wide open for TV-MA and AO content which I wanted to have blocked. So, now I have to watch my kids like a hawk when they are on Netflix.
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We can only hope that Netflix sees this blog and the other blogs that describe the problems. I'd like to think that there's a plan in place to address the issues but given the complete lack of movement on any of the issues in this post and the date of this post, I'm inclined to think that family oriented offerings are still not in the picture for Netflix. Their silence on their roadmap for the future of their service doesn't help matters.
I'm in the same boat as you are Steve. I have to watch my kids' access to Netflix because the parental controls are wonky.
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For an idea of how ridicules Netflix's parental controls are check out this you tube video.
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Awesome. Definately feel your pain on that one and it hasn't improved since I wrote this. Hopefully, as they get fixated on personal usage versus household usage, we'll get parental controls the way they should be.
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When will Netflix institute flexible parental controls???? I don't get it, they're getting so much business and are the biggest fish in the streaming/dvd rental pond. Why do they put out an ipad app and don't include something as simple as parental controls? Ditto for the Tivo app. There has to be a GOOD reason because adding the software functionality to password protect certain rated movies/shows is EASY.
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We recently got a subscription to Netflix and I wanted to watch a show rated PG "Lois and Clark". We set the parental controls to R and it still won't play. It will however play movies that I would consider rated "X" but are rated R. This doesn't make any sense at all.
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The big problem is that all rating systems
Reflect the basic american values of:
Sex - bad
Murder, torture, and mindless violence - good
Frankly there are pg kid shows I can't stand to watch
Because of the violence
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I just called netflix customer support about this (1-866-716-0414) and the support guy thanked me profusely for calling about it, because they know it is a problem and want it fixed, but engineering prioritizes these things by call volume, SO, PLEASE CALL SUPPORT ABOUT THE ABOVE ISSUES. They make a note of each issue in their system and that drives what they do next.
It may be our best chance at getting them to actually fix it.
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I'm amazed at the number of hits that this thread continues to get month in and month out. It's definately a sign that I wasn't alone in my thinking when I posted this. I've called support and logged a ticket on the issue as well but it has been over a year since this post and nothing from Netflix. I'm not optimistic about a fix anytime soon.
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Just called Netflix. The guy tried to tell me about account profiles and couldn't set one up. I had to tell him that account profiles are only applicable to DVD customers, and I was streaming only. He also "logged a ticket". Please call and call frequently.
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They won't fix it for us. They have it that way so we have to either jump through hoops to change the controls back and forth. Or just sign up for two separate accounts. For 7.99 a month I'm guessing they assume most people will just have two accounts- which is what I'm about to do. Roll over and just take it. :(
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Two accounts would be fine if you have one child. What if you have three children with wide age differences. Mine are 15 yrs, 14 yrs and then 9 yrs. old. If I am to pay, even if 8.99 per month, I want various levels of controls. I would like to (and will pay more) to have user defined levels !!! Each person or each sub group has access thru a password...
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What I've learned to date is that Netflix seems to be embracing accounts connected to a person. The mobile cell phone space is driving that model. Families are being left out in the dark as they push to have everyone on a distinct account.
Apple doesn't get it with iTunes. Microsoft barely gets it with Xbox. Netflix refuses to ignore it. Families consume content together as a single unit, not a group of individuals. We don't expect to pay 4 times for something delivered to our television. Cable doesn't require that.
Then again, cable doesn't stream to your phone either. I guess, with the restriction that I can only have one movie stream and one TV stream open at the same time, it wouldn't be too terible to allow me to manage that per device, by adding child logins, without having to buy multiple subscriptions. Something needs to change.
This morning, I jumped on to Michael's Insight blog as I do about once a month to find an article pointing to some news about Netflix that pertains to my earlier post about Netflix's poor family support for streaming . The GigaOM article mentions
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